CD: So how do you go about explaining that to a network? How do you pitch a show where you deliberately create situations to fail?

CG: That’s a hard pitch, you know? It’s a really difficult pitch. It’s strange, because we’ve done the show for so long, over four years now, between UCB and public access. So luckily Comedy Central kind of knew what they were getting into.

It was really frustrating to do the show for that long and feel like we were on to something really good and have nobody really want to be a part of it. But the good part of it taking that long is that we’ve established what it is. People really understand what they’re signing up for, if they want to give us an honest shot to just do it. I really appreciate that. It’s on us now to just push it a little further and convince them that letting a thrown-together show full of failure get on their airwaves actually has a firm chance at success.

CD: You seem totally uninterested in the traditional idea of being a celebrity. You’re not big into having people go through your agent or publicist or any gatekeeper to get to you.

CG: That’s very true.

CD: How has approaching things in that way affected your career?

CG: [Laughs] I would assume negatively.

CD: Why is that?

CG: I feel like there is a certain system that makes sense to buy into for your career and I haven’t really bought into it. I think maybe things would be going better if I did, maybe, schmooze more or give that a more honest shot.