MP: I don’t know. I’m going to say a weird one also. Is that okay? When I was a kid, I really liked this guy Steve Charney, who was a local New York-area radio guy. He’s not famous. He’s just a guy. I don’t even know what he’s doing now, but I used to listen to these taped versions of his show.

 

He had a show called “Knock On Wood.” He was a ventriloquist, and he did my birthday one time, but he had these sketches he would do on his radio show, where the whole joke was that it’s sound, so you can do anything. He’s a ventriloquist, but you can’t see any of this stuff. There was an episode — here’s Steve and Harry, and Harry was the dummy — there’s an episode where Harry’s gotten his trunk renovated. He takes a little tour of the trunk, and it’s a lot of Steve being like, “It’s a lot bigger in here than you’ve ever told me,” and Harry’s like, “Yeah, I’ve got this and that.”

 

There’s a lot of, “Well, you’re me, aren’t you?” Very meta, and Harry being like, “I don’t think I’m you. I’m pretty sure I’m not.” I think it was one of my earliest influences, being exposed to this surrealist, very heartfelt thing. He’d made 800 episodes and I meticulously collected tapes of this show — I had probably dozens and dozens of them. I wrote a paper on it in college. I don’t know what he’s doing now. I sent my paper to him when I wrote it, and I was like, “I wrote a paper on you.” He was like, “Thank you so much.” He did do my birthday party once.

 

CD: That’s amazing. Both those answers together really sum up Good Cop Great Cop.

 

MP: Pretty much.

 

CH: I hope Steve Charney’s doing well. He’s going to love this.